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Hiiro No Kakera rereading of crayons
Hiiro No Kakera releitura em lápis de cor
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ReximusPlus Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
fake..unoriginal...
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Cyanide-Tea Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
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diregeist Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
fucking tracer. just sell your body for money if you want that much attention, bitch, and stop giving artists a bad name. Can't ruin the name "slut".
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Chuushiri Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
I don't believe this person used a filter. I think it was coloured with coloured pencils. Some parts are different from the original, and there isn't a way to have that replicated in a Photshop filter. For example, the berries on the right hand side of the picture, near the subject's head, does not contain the same number of berries as in the original picture. These different are usually attributed to the fact that the artist probably didn't want to replicate ALL the berries, and thus got tired and lazily sped through it. I know I've done that before in a detail intensive drawing, especially background stuff.

The hair is drawing differently around the nape of his neck; the original shows two strands layering over his neck, but this person only chose to do one, and not only that, but to pretty much hide most of the neck.

The face on this picture is narrower than on the original, and several hair strands are drawn more thickly that that of the original picture. The patterns also differ, especially when it comes to the sizes of certain things (the white lines are off, the blue oval in his sleeve is much smaller than the original).

However, this doesn't make the person completely innocent. It's possible that there was either some tracing involved, or she's very good at looking at a person's art and copying. I've overlayed the original and this one, and in some places the lines match up perfectly, however in others, it's skewed. It would not surprise me if she used a grid to do this. It's understandable if the pictures themselves are off as well, since this looks like a photograph, and those are subject to all kinds of distortions.

tl;dr I think she coloured this on her own, and it wasn't a Photoshop filter. However, it's possible she could have traced it, either in whole or a part of it, or she's surprisingly good at referencing.

Do I believe she deserved a DD? No. She's definitely not linking back to the original source, and overall this isn't completely original, only a copy. I think in terms of her colouring ability, however, she is good. She just chooses to not make anything original with it, which is a shame.
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StandingLast Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Amazing work or not, it' sad you use your talents to completely copy off of other's work, without even crediting the original.
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CelestialDrake Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
And the fact that the DD was removed, but they left the STOLEN.PICTURE.UP. is depressing. C'mon DA, you defend the people who break the law, yet you completely ignore the people who buy stuff and pay for shit on the site, and THAT'S the stuff that is giving you your fat paychecks. If you piss them off, they'll all leave, and there will be no more money!

Eventually you will be sued, and unlike what the rules say (and I actually saw this), you won't get any money from the people that sued you.

Actually try to please the people that keep this site running, instead of helping people break the law.


My gosh.
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
the picture can't be taken down until the original artist asks to, and the original artist is Kazuki Yone, a famous japanese artist who probably doesn't have time to go around the internet to make complaints. Besides this is a reproduction of the work, it's not reposting of the original so it could be considered fanart. It's not really such a big deal that it stays on the site as long as the artist doesn't receive praise like it's their original work
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FancyDicks Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
1. traced
2. no permission
3. no credit

All in conclusion: ~LuadoChackal was a lazy pile of crap who didnt bother credit and felt the need to rip off some one who worked hard for their own praise and butt kissing.
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
i'm tired of talking to you people :/
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FancyDicks Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
1. Public site

2. Open to any one

3. Free to coment/reply

:shrug: well its true.
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JCHSALEM Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The fact that it is so renowned makes the theft even dumber to attempt. That work is not original and is theft.
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
this is redrawing of work, theft is when you repost the artwork unaltered
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ShadowMaker-241 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Copyright infringement is when someone takes artwork and uses it as their own, altered or not.

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I suggest you read up on this.
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
i'm tired of talking about this, believe what you want to believe, i don't care :)
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ShadowMaker-241 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Okay then
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Defleshed-Martyr Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If you don't care, then why do you keep replying? :lol:
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JCHSALEM Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If you take a song, change the lyrics, but keep the music itself the same, it is still copyright infringement. It is violating intellectual property laws.
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
it's not the same thing
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JCHSALEM Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, but the principle is the same.
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
apples and oranges :no:
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CelestialDrake Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It is not fanart. Read the DA rules. Fanart has to be 100% original, but you can use bases or refs. Altering a picture then posting it without permission is theft.

It's not a big deal? Going against copyrights isn't a big deal?

Oh jeez.....
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kyoyaskitten130 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Alright, first I didn't even request this piece! I requested a different piece that the lady didn't enjoy much but said she would choose something else from her gallery. Second, I didn't know that this was stolen art! I was so excited when someone that I had found got a DD, so when I saw that it was stolen work I was devastated!
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JCHSALEM Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This, my dear friend, is why I hate people.
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CelestialDrake Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
People suck. Damn them!
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JCHSALEM Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I love you for that comment.
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CelestialDrake Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
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Tracing totally means they made it by scratch, bro. They copy every line of the picture, and color. HOLY BEEJUS!
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
there's no need to snap at me and act like a little child, she didn't alter it, she re redid it from scratch in colored pencils. It was wrong of her not to credit the original artist but other than that she hasn't done anything wrong as far as deviantART is concerened.

if you must know, ANY type of fanart is illegal! weather it's completely made by you or traced or eyeballed. If you keep fanart in your home that's fine but the moment you post it online you can find yourself with a lawsuit in your hands no matter how original your art is.
But despite it being illegal it is accepted on dA as long as the artist doesn't make a profit of it. This drawing was made by this deviant from scratch, even if she traced it, she probably spent hours on hours coloring this with colored pencils. It is an accepted form of fanart on dA and as long as Kazuki Yone doesn't ask for it to be taken down it can stay here for 100 years and there's nothing you can do about it.
So calm down and move on :)
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Rein-pyun Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
Actually she didn't recreate it at all. The only thing she did was render it in photoshop to get a coloured pencil crayon effect.

This is 100% plagiarism.
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
i work in colored pencils and i am 100% sure that this is redone not rendered. Besides if you look closely you will notice differences in strands of hair atc. This work is recreated from scratch on paper with colored pencils. There is no filter in the world that can make this effect without loosing details and sharpness, but i guess people who never used them can't know that there's a limit to what photoshop filters can do :no:
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CelestialDrake Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ok, so I draw using pencils and colored pencils too, and I still know it is possible to make it look like it is on paper and colored with pencil in photoshop. You can basically do ANYTHING in photoshop (well, artistically).
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
i'm tired of this, believe whatever, i don't care :/
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Rein-pyun Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
Oh whoop-dee-do, you know how pencil crayons work I should give you a medal. :p

Looking back in her gallery it does seem that she used pencil crayons to recreate the artworks so apologies for jumping the gun.
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
:nod:
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FlawlesslyArtistic Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually, after using PS for a little while, I can honestly say that yes. There is a filter that can keep the sharpness of the strands of hair.
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
art filters destroy lines and shapes, and what i was saying is that the strands of hair are different from this image to the original, it's because even if she traced, because this is traditional she couldn't copy every snall detail like small strands of hair so she drew her own. If this would be a filter there wouldn't be any difference between the images.
Looc carefully at the strands of hair in the right side of the face, actually all the strands of hair are different, also the markings on the clothings have different proportions than the original. But if you really want proof, here's the overlay of the artworks, they are very different in proportions, it can not be overlayed better than this, the original has a smaller head, there are too many things different for me to overlay this better but you can go ahead and do it yourself if you don't believe me
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if this would be just with a filter it would fit perfectly no?
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SpiritSiphon Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Dude, he isn't acting like a child. Don't be rude. Why are you defending this person so much? This is basically tracing.
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fuckshit Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Professional
Because they trace too :/
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SpiritSiphon Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh my god! Hahahahahaha! That's rich. I just laughed so hard at that..
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fuckshit Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Professional
:nod: Pretty much invalidates every argument they've tried to make about their "opinion" because it's actually just defense and guilt.
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
maybe you don't notice how rude he replied to me when i was being polite
i am defending this person because i don't think people should rage and throw shit when this person isn't doing anything against the dA policy except the fact that this deviation is misplaced and should be in the fanart category and should credit the original artist with a link to the original drawing.
But what everyone here doesn't seem to understand is that tracing is accepted on dA, and yes what this deviant did IS tracing.
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SpiritSiphon Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Recheck the dA policies. Tracing isn't permitted, friend. And I can't really control everyone freaking out. However, I am going to stand up for what's right and call out art thieves and tracers.
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
read this article [link] dA is very clear that tracing is allwed, to quote them 'has a place in our community' :)
but yea, why read the dA rules when you can go and "stand up" for something that isn't breaking any rules :sarcasm:
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WoodLily Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
He's not acting like a child he's actually right about this. Screenshots and fan art are 2 different things.
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
this is not a screenshot, tracing is acceptable on dA but many deviants such as yourself don't seem to know this. the only thing not acceptable is reposting of the original art, and even that, if the original artist doesn't repost himself/herself then dA won't take it down.
learn the rules before you rage on other people's art
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WoodLily Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
I didn't rage I was just being honest. U had no idea you could read emotions on the internet. Are you a witch or something? It looked so much the the original I could've sworn it was. Art theft is illegal but you don't seem to know that because you are a bad listener. It was traced which makes the person who posted this unoriginal. I wanna contact the original artist now. I know the rules you are just a bad listener.
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
here you are calling names, that's not childish at all :sarcasm:
what this deviant did is not art theft, but you people just don't seem to understand this. Go read the dA rules before arguing with me
go ahead and contact Kazuki Yone, i'm sure she'll listen to you :lmao::lmao::lmao:
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unicornoffame Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
Tracing is not fanart. It's ripping off someone's hard work. The original artist spent a LONG time working on it, only to have someone trace it, which isn't that hard or time consuming so don't try and justify it. Fanart is okay and won't get you sued. What WILL get you sued is trace overs and recolors. And not crediting.
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
fanart and tracing is ILLEGAL but it is accepted, dA will not take it down period! geez you people should wake up to the real world :no:
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fuckshit Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Professional
I work in the industry. It's illegal to SELL fanart, but certainly not to make it. However, it IS illegal to post traced works to this site considering the submission agreement enters you into a binding contract where you give DeviantArt the copyright of your image and allow them to use it as they wish. Considering you don't hold the copyright to said image since it's a trace over, it's illegal to give it away.

You should "wake up to the real world" and watch the news. An interesting case was shepherd fairy getting sued over his traced work (traced over a photograph).
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Yuuza Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
i'm bored of talking about this, believe whatever you want, i don't care
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